31. august 2004 - 18:33Der er
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Please help me with my d**n PC-S**t!
Hello again!
I am still struggling with this problem.
When I am working with the computer like with Photoshop that are pretty demanding it uses to hang after a couple of minutes. But sometimes I can, through a twisted TP, exchange files with the computer but it doesn't responds to any input at all. I can't press CTRL+ALT+DELETE or move the mouse. Caps lock doesn't respond either. At hanging point I have had the taskmanager showing. At the processes tab the 3 processes at the top sorted at CPU is: System Idle Process CPU:92 Mem:16K Photoshp.exe CPU:06 Mem:31,4K CSRSS.exe CPU:02 Mem:1,4K
1 I have tried the following: 2 Installed ServicePack 4 3 Deframent the harddrive svereal times. 4 Disk Clean up. 5 I have Run Error Nuker, Ad aware and Spybot. 6 Run the computer with out anything with exccept motherboard, harddrive and graphicscard. But the computer still hangs with out any other hardware. 7 Updated all drivers. 8 Updated BIOS. 9 Run MBM5 and check that the fan is working and that the CPU doesn't gooes over 51 celcius. 10 Updated Photoshop. 11 Renamed the photoshop pref file 12 Changed the scratch disk for Photoshop
Perhaps this is a clue, I viewd a mpeg-move in fullscreen and maximazed and the computer hanged after about 4 minutes. Perhaps it depends on the same problem.
It is so strange cause I got a other computer with the same CPU speed and RAM and that one never hangs. And that one got the scratch disk on the same as the. OS.
Since the other computer runs fine with just 128 Mb Ram and a MySQL running as well I do not think that the RAM matters.
What do you think?
All suggestions is appricated! Any wild guesses is appricated!
Best regards Fredrik
Some facts about the computer:
OS: Windows 2000 Pro SP4 Motherboard: ASUS P3 500MHz (ASUS P3B-F) Grafichcard: Nvidia RIVA TNT RAM 128Mb Harddrive 10Gb 1 CD-reader (Master) ASUS 1 CD-burner (Slave) LG Floppy
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A good guess is that your work i PS is with very large files......
Try moving scratchdisk 2 another drive, if that doesnt work it looks lige you have 2 upgrade your maschine - your spec is a little low for large files in PS
I've read somewhere, that a good rule of thumb when handling large images in photoshop is to have 1½ time as much free memory as the size of the picture.
For an example. If your picture is 50 mb, then it's recommended that you have at least 75 mb free memory, or else there's a good chance your machine is going to use it's swap-file and that just plain ol' slow...
And I gotta stick to tubber's reply about your low specs. If you need to do serious work in photoshop, I'd also recommend you to upgrade the machine...
But since the same work, pictuers and even more (MySQL running) works fine at another computer with the same CPU speed and 128 MB Ram, isn't that strange?
Note: You have a lot better chance of solving the problem if you respond to the input that you get in these questions. As far as i know, this is the third question about that specific problem, and you have failed to respond to input in the other two.
I guess that in other words you are a bit tierd of me. It is ok, but this problem really driving my nuts. Sorry if that is the case, but I really need help with this.
BTW I forgot to mention that I have tried to run with 256Mb Ram borrowed from a friend. And again it works fine at the other computer. I have also run sfc /scannow with no improvement.
I starting to lean for more RAM as you say acctually. But I thought it was so starnge since it works so fine on my laptop with same performance.
I got a tip since everything works fine at that other computer with the same capacity. Perhaps my graphiccard is sharing system RAM, and then my 128MB is going to diminish fast. But how can I be sure of that?
Is it possible to see? The graphiccard is a: Nvidia RIVA TNT
Best regards Fredrik
I have tried the following: 1 Installed ServicePack 4 2 Deframent the harddrive svereal times. 3 Disk Clean up. 4 I have Run Error Nuker, Ad aware and Spybot. 5 Run the computer with out anything with exccept motherboard, harddrive and graphicscard. But the computer still hangs with out any other hardware. 6 Updated all drivers. 7 Updated BIOS. 8 Run MBM5 and check that the fan is working and that the CPU doesn't gooes over 51 celcius. 9 Updated Photoshop. 10 Renamed the photoshop pref file 11 Changed the scratch disk for Photoshop 12 Updated Windows file with sfc /scannow 13 Run with 256 MB Ram borrowed from a friend. 14 Tried to generate the error in safe mode, but PS will not start with less then 256 colors. 15 Run Microsoft Memory Diagnostics (standard and extended test) without any reports of errors. 16 Reseted the bios. 17 Icreased the pageing from 250Mb to 500Mb and the registry from 40Mb to 45Mb.
Correct me if I'm wrong but my guess is that both of them got a memory of they own and do not share RAM with the System. Intergrated and Internal I guess that it menas that the memory is on the graphiccard.
The NVidia should even be better if you check the memory size.
So if you great guys could correct me or advise me something more it would be great.
1 Installed ServicePack 4 2 Deframent the harddrive svereal times. 3 Disk Clean up. 4 I have Run Error Nuker, Ad aware and Spybot. 5 Run the computer with out anything with exccept motherboard, harddrive and graphicscard. But the computer still hangs with out any other hardware. 6 Updated all drivers. 7 Updated BIOS. 8 Run MBM5 and check that the fan is working and that the CPU doesn't gooes over 51 celcius. 9 Updated Photoshop. 10 Renamed the photoshop pref file 11 Changed the scratch disk for Photoshop 12 Updated Windows file with sfc /scannow 13 Run with 256 MB Ram borrowed from a friend. 14 Tried to generate the error in safe mode, but PS will not start with less then 256 colors. 15 Run Microsoft Memory Diagnostics (standard and extended test) without any reports of errors. 16 Reseted the bios. 17 Icreased the pageing from 250Mb to 500Mb and the registry from 40Mb to 45Mb. 18 Scaned the disks with chkdsk = 0 bad sectors 19 Scaned with Seagates scan tool and received Result: Failed with critical Errors so I called Seagate and the told me that this was a common message at old harddeives and nothing to worry about. Bad sectors would be something to worry about but that is not the case. 20 Switch the paging file for Windows to an other partition
To me it is so strange that everything works fine at my laptop with the same performance, ( with even more bad performance acctually), then at my other computer. It is so strnge.
But now I give up. But it would be so nice to understand.
Thanks for all your replies.
Please all of you give svar so I can reward you all.
Due to the title of the question, the mails from this question went int my spam-filter, so only by coincedence i saw that this thread was updated. I wasn't ignoring you or your problem.
That graphic card that you have. Is that a Creative 16 mb tnt ? The reason for asking is because i have had a bad experiance with that specific card. It worked very well in windows 95 and 98, but in XP it could freeze the computer. So if it IS such a card i would try a totally different card in the computer before giving up.
Hello! I acctually think that I have solved my mystery with my hanging computer.
My network card was installed too close to my graphics card so my guess is that my graphicscard got overheated. This happend boot with Win 2000 and Mandrake 10.1, but not with Mandrake 8.1.
Now I have changed the positions and got more air in between the cards and the computer has run for 30 minutes now without any hanging.
I already commented in one of your other questions concerning this subject.
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