problem

ALT is impossible here. TCP/IP is a large subject :)

the basics things you should do are:
make sure that all computers have a static IP (not assigned automatically until you get the router)

make them all in the same sub mask

for example:
PC 1 IP - 10.0.0.1 sub mask 255.0.0.0
PC 2 IP - 10.0.0.2 sub mask 255.0.0.0
pc 3 IP - 10.0.0.86 sub mask 255.0.0.0

NO need for gateway as you don\'t have a router yet. Gateways are defined so that computers know where to route packets on different network segments.

M

http://www.3iii.dk/computer/network/tcp_lokalnet.htm#abcClass

francke > are you sure you don\'t want to provide a document describing how to convert IP numbers from binary to decimal ? :o)

hmmm. Dont work..
We cant find both computer either way.
Are you sure there isnt more to do?

well... the way to test it is not through network neighborhood (not yet anyway) because browsing the network is on a higher level and therefore can give errors due to software or service miss configuration rather then network configuration.

try this:

Step 1) open a command prompt and type ping 127.0.0.1

if you get time out or destination unreachable then you have a problem with your TCP/IP protocol and you will need to reinstall it. if you get reply then go to step 2

step 2) Ping own IP (to find your IP you can type ipconfig /all although you should know your IP since you put it there). If error then again problem with TCP/IP if ok then step 3

step 3) do the same on other PC

Step 4) try to ping each other. if ok then the network is fine and the problem is in the software definition or services. if error then most likely that the computers are not connected correctly.

check list:
* all computers connect via RJ45 cable (looks like a phone cable only wider) to a hub.

* The uplink port in the hub is not in use

* if you don\'t use a hub the make sure the cable you are using is twisted (usually in a different color the gray) you can check the cable by holding the 2 ends next to each other and see the colors order. a twisted cable will show you the colors as if one end was looking at a mirror rather then 2 of the same color in opposite directions.

try that firs, I will give my fingers a rest :)

M

firs = first

i already said i use a Switch.
I can ping both computers, but we can\'t find either computer i windows.

ok. a switch is like a hub only a bit more intelligent :) (higher on the OSI model)

if your computers can ping each other then it\'s good news! we have just eliminated 1000 error possibilities.

I will look at the software issue tomorrow (unless you solve it tonight) since I am at work and my 9 operating systems PC is at home were I would like to see for my self the configuration options in win98 and winME (win9x). I can\'t remember it now in my head as it has been more then a year since I worked with win9x.

Until tomorrow then, farvel :)

M

We want the two computers to find each other.

I know that that\'s what you want. if they can ping each other then they should also be able to see each other and share folders and all.

I can\'t guide you through step by step now since I need to see the window options on my screen (I am getting old, what can I do)

Hvis du bruger port 1-2  på switch\'en så prøv 2-3 Der er nogen gange der kan være vrøvl med nr 1 !Ved ikke hvorfor!1

francke is right that there sometimes a problem with port 1 but that is because it is sometimes an uplink port. either way it shouldn\'t be it as we already concluded that they can ping each other.

Nååja! Der er lidt svært at følge med i sproget! ;)

:) sorry

hmmm... Hver gang jeg jeg åbner netværket for jeg en fejl. 

ok b.a.s, I\'m back.

if you go into your control panel and the into \"network\"  do you have something called \"Microsoft family logon\" listed? if not the install it. if yes then click on \"fil og udkriftdeling\" and put a hack next to \"andre brugere skal have adgang til mine filer\"

you will probably need to restart.

UNDER THE \"Identifikation\" tab on the top, make sure that both computers are on the same workgroup.

M

Ok det virker.. Næsten!
Win98 pc\'en har det problem at den ikke kan gå på nettet når netværket virker.
Under funktioner>internetindstillinger>forbindelser er den sat til brug altid standardforbindelsen. Men når den er sat der virker netværket ikke. Når den er sat til \"ring op når der ikke findes en netværktilslutning.  Please help!

forsat fra: \"ring op når der ikke findes en netværktilslutning\" virker netværket men ikke internet.

Har begge maskiner kørt på nettet før?

ja

Grundet sproget har jeg ikke set om det modem du bruger nu!

Jeg har et lucent modem (56k)

Har du prøvet at køre netværk via modem på 98 maskinen?

Eller en anden port i switch\'en

jeg har ikke tænkt mig at \"pille\" alt for meget med ISDN forbindelsen. Mener du virkelig at jeg skal afindstallere TDC\'s ISDN opsætning og sætte en windows standard på?

Jeg troede KUN du havde modem og ikke ISDN!! Lad den endelig være!;) Tænker!

Og fem år senere kom han ud af hulen med svaret i sin hule hånd: \"Kyl WIN 98 maskinene på lossen og køb en NY!\".

Just kidding around ;)

Du har prøvet en anden port på switch\'en?

Ja. virker ikke

Også byttet om?

ja

Det er heller ikke det der er problemet. Vi kan jo(som sagt ovenfor) ping\'e hindanden.

Har du prøvet på 98 mask. funktioner/internetindstillinger/forb./tilføj om den kan finde modemet

Pis!! I kan jo pinge hinanden!!

Netop nogen gode ideer?

Sluk Me maskinen og se om 98\'ersen kan gå på nettet alene

de t hele sidder vel sådan? ;)http://www.trendnet.dk/html/specs.asp?27

WIN 98 maskinen kan godt gå på nettet og netværket nu (windows er sjovt ik\'?). MEN men men... De kan begge g netværket og begge på internetet, meen de kan sgu ik finde hindanden... De ligger begge i workgroup og det hele... wierd..

og en gang imellem har jeg overhovedet ikke adgang til netværket... again--WIERD!

Yep.. Nu har jeg lært lidt undt omkring og har fået det til at virke..

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